tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post4042641795992062220..comments2023-11-22T02:49:34.600-06:00Comments on A Librarian's Guide to Etiquette: Restrooms, GenderingJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13028088897973151439noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-26177481373309122102011-04-27T08:03:29.592-05:002011-04-27T08:03:29.592-05:00To the two people who pointed out a version of the...To the two people who pointed out a version of the following:<br /><br />"Agreed- funny because it's not what a good librarian would do. And especially entirely relevant because I've seen co-workers do some variation on it. :["<br /><br />Thank you! I was beginning to worry that none of the posters actually read the blog to have an accurate concept of its tone. I agree with bothAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-33438924807077313082011-03-08T10:45:36.281-06:002011-03-08T10:45:36.281-06:00Agreed- funny because it's not what a good lib...Agreed- funny because it's not what a good librarian would do. And especially entirely relevant because I've seen co-workers do some variation on it. :[Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-49736777472890973802011-03-04T16:09:28.730-06:002011-03-04T16:09:28.730-06:00Would it be insensitive to engage the patron in co...Would it be insensitive to engage the patron in conversation about just WHICH of the separated restrooms said transgender person would be more comfortable using? <br /><br />Or maybe just simply say "Sure. That's our most popular reference question. Men's is over there; and Women's is over that way."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-64575898818238953532011-03-01T22:59:31.297-06:002011-03-01T22:59:31.297-06:00Most of these posts are telling us to do something...Most of these posts are telling us to do something that we know a polite librarian shouldn't do. That's the joke. And that's how I read it. It's funny because it's not true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-72297753229526663712011-02-28T22:38:25.165-06:002011-02-28T22:38:25.165-06:00I'm offended that you're offended!
NO!
I&#...I'm offended that you're offended!<br />NO!<br />I'M offended that YOU'RE OFFENDED!<br />NO!<br />...<br />...<br />...<br />We're really all so smart and advanced when we try to guilt others into believing something that they really don't.<br />All in the name of "open-mindedness" of political correctness, when in reality forcing your will on others is the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-82675497260938342252011-02-28T22:29:07.507-06:002011-02-28T22:29:07.507-06:00Wow.
Political correctness over common sense- aga...Wow. <br />Political correctness over common sense- again.<br />I thought the post was great!<br />Are we so arrogant as a culture to believe we can force others to like EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD? Yes- I said LIKE, NOT RESPECT.<br />There was no disrespect in this post but the reaction was treating it as though the person didn't LIKE transgender people. <br />Stop twisting it.<br />It Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-25007686046291232212011-02-25T08:09:06.053-06:002011-02-25T08:09:06.053-06:00I thought this post was funny, especially the bit ...I thought this post was funny, especially the bit about the jammed printer. Printers jam so often it's likely you're not even lying, just telling a truth you haven't empirically verified yet.<br /><br />When you get to the printer, you can unjam it. The people whose documents were jammed will be so happy they'll give you a rabbit.James Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05816984028140769805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-57373136812617222972011-02-25T07:12:29.306-06:002011-02-25T07:12:29.306-06:00Amy - "Why does it matter? In either case, yo...Amy - "Why does it matter? In either case, you don't possess an inherent right to know their exact gender identity."<br /><br />EXACTLY. If you read the rest of my post, rather than taking one line out of context and choosing to take issue with it, you would see that I agree with you and in fact, you are making the exact same point that I was making.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-47128496202591551612011-02-25T07:05:50.742-06:002011-02-25T07:05:50.742-06:00You know what I do when someone tells me a joke th...You know what I do when someone tells me a joke that I think is lame and tired? Pretty much the same thing I do when I encounter somebody that is making a big stink over something that doesn't deserve it. I ignore them and move onto something else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-64745490990320000152011-02-24T22:45:32.272-06:002011-02-24T22:45:32.272-06:00Good grief, what an uproar. More than once, I'...Good grief, what an uproar. More than once, I've been at a reference desk and been uncertain whether I should greet a patron with "Sir" or "Ma'am". So I just give a bright customer service smile, and mumble. It's not insensitivity, it's uncertainty.<br /><br />To the ALGTE blogger: please ignore all this; we need your disrespectfulness.Jim S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-53555997994357215512011-02-24T18:32:44.644-06:002011-02-24T18:32:44.644-06:00We all have connections to libraries- we know that...We all have connections to libraries- we know that if you don't like it get over it. There's something for everyone here and just because this joke doesn't appeal to your sense of humor doesn't mean you get to bitch and cry until it's censored for everyone else.<br /><br />And don't even start about how it's not the same. It is. <br /><br />Still upset? Then don&#Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-61488601152151745992011-02-24T18:15:48.450-06:002011-02-24T18:15:48.450-06:00since when was the practice of being a decent huma...since when was the practice of being a decent human turned into being "politically correct?"c. simpkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18179646410596566135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-22072195506848076402011-02-24T17:30:15.485-06:002011-02-24T17:30:15.485-06:00Regardless of the intent of the writer, how anyone...Regardless of the intent of the writer, how anyone else reads it, or how much political correctness irritates people, this made ME feel uncomfortable as someone who falls on the trans spectrum. I agree with you, zugwrack, pointing out how awkward it is to socially interact with someone whose gender identity isn't obvious is a pretty overdone joke, and frankly, probably the least funny post I&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-63401421303103308652011-02-24T17:21:32.419-06:002011-02-24T17:21:32.419-06:00"Relax" is not an acceptable answer to s..."Relax" is not an acceptable answer to someone pointing out insensitivity. It's rude, in fact.<br /><br />Sure wish the blogger would respond here.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07038597916930281778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-21382362238481146272011-02-24T17:06:42.031-06:002011-02-24T17:06:42.031-06:00Hey Everyone! RELAX!!
I found nothing offensive i...Hey Everyone! RELAX!!<br />I found nothing offensive in the original post.<br />To me it was merely making light of what must at times be a dreary job, and, as a partially sighted person I often need to ask directions to something that's in clear view to anyone else.<br />Political Correctness has gone viral.<br />Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-77739139433935360372011-02-24T16:27:21.467-06:002011-02-24T16:27:21.467-06:00"Why are people assuming this post is about t..."Why are people assuming this post is about transgender people? That's not AT ALL how I interpreted it. There are several people in my library in my line of sight right now whose gender is not particularly obvious at first glance."<br /><br />Why does it matter? In either case, you don't possess an inherent right to know their exact gender identity.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07038597916930281778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-47621261293417524492011-02-24T15:39:23.809-06:002011-02-24T15:39:23.809-06:00As for having plentiful unisex bathrooms, that wou...As for having plentiful unisex bathrooms, that would be nice in an ideal world, and it is an idea I might support for small buildings that only need 2-4 stalls. But in any library building that requires a large number of facilities, it's not even remotely practical. It would take up significantly more room in the building, be much more expensive to implement, and be more difficult to maintainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-33637472629370935462011-02-24T15:24:24.543-06:002011-02-24T15:24:24.543-06:00Why are people assuming this post is about transge...Why are people assuming this post is about transgender people? That's not AT ALL how I interpreted it. There are several people in my library in my line of sight right now whose gender is not particularly obvious at first glance. Particularly if they are very, very young or very, very old and not dressed in a particularly gender-specific way. My ability to identify their gender does not Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-5244505422282249292011-02-24T15:14:52.588-06:002011-02-24T15:14:52.588-06:00@ anonymous 3: " Be gracious, and not wear yo...@ anonymous 3: " Be gracious, and not wear your choices like a chip on your shoulder."<br /><br />Choices? Being transgendered isn't a choice. Read up on it before you make flippant comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-77235740645028179722011-02-24T15:00:03.696-06:002011-02-24T15:00:03.696-06:00Making "jokes" about transgender people ...Making "jokes" about transgender people isn't funny. <br /><br />Instead of poking fun at transgenders, maybe you should re-evaluate the fact that there are not any bathrooms that are gender neutral. Why not just have a unisex one instead?<br /><br />This joke is about as funny as making jim crow jokes. Ie, it's not. Also, people who don't think that this "joke" isAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-422783685615388732011-02-24T13:35:20.928-06:002011-02-24T13:35:20.928-06:00Hey, I love that this topic thread is happening du...Hey, I love that this topic thread is happening during Freedom to Read Week up here in Canada! Hallejuah that we can <br />A) Write the post the way it is<br />B) Object to the post<br />and <br />C) Object to the objections.<br /><br />Long Live Free Speech!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-76120606735326700822011-02-24T13:21:06.456-06:002011-02-24T13:21:06.456-06:00Actually, Anonymous(es), my point was that the jok...Actually, Anonymous(es), my point was that the joke is just old. I'm not expressing offense, I think you're thinking of someone else. So, maybe you need to take the attitude down a few notches. I'm just saying that it's a bummer to find something you thought was cool and interesting turns out to be just like all the other weak stuff out there. The world is full of Two and a Half zugwrackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14013293261631241592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-50761466515005266822011-02-24T13:20:18.402-06:002011-02-24T13:20:18.402-06:00i interpret this post as mocking library staff who...i interpret this post as mocking library staff who get so frazzled at their inability to put someone into a box that they pull the fire alarm rather than answer a simple question in a respectful way. it's funny because it's sad and true, like most of the posts on this blog.<br />however, what isn't funny is how the comments turn into "transpeople are a bunch of humorless Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-57207901850429358622011-02-24T12:59:54.541-06:002011-02-24T12:59:54.541-06:00Uggghhhh - up until now, I thought this was a have...Uggghhhh - up until now, I thought this was a haven where we could laugh at ourselves and our political correctness and the difficult situations we are faced with every day. But there's always somebody that insists on interpreting silly nonsense as a big offense. There were probably people that wrote irate letters to Saturday Night Live about Julia Sweeney's androgynous "Pat" Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10092275.post-8993777881396410742011-02-24T12:55:16.090-06:002011-02-24T12:55:16.090-06:00I'm offended that so many trans-gendered peopl...I'm offended that so many trans-gendered people had their sense of humor removed. If you can't find the restroom, you're either:<br />1. Unable to read<br /> or<br />2. Lazy<br />Stop judging the behavior of others, and work on your own attitudes. Be gracious, and not wear your choices like a chip on your shoulder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com